hello i m looking for a new printer (FDM) and my budget is 900$ i m looking for a good print quality, and a fast and quiet printer.
I am trying to choose between the P1P and the V400 but maybe there is a better choice or maybe should a wait a bit for a new release that is coming that i don’t know about
what do you think ?
As far as quiet goes, the Bambu X1, and by extension, the P1P, isn’t quiet when running at high speed,at least from what a friend of mine who has an X1 has said. Not sure if any of the high speed printers are quiet at high acceleration and speed. Someone with more knowledge on the subject will hopefully tell us.
Use earplugs. Then you can optimize for real!
Hi there, thanks for reaching out!
Yeah the recommendations I would make would definitely be the P1P or the V400. The P1P can be a bit louder when printing at top speed, a couple things can be done to quiet it down slightly. You can slow it down to 50% or 75% printing speed (which is still incredibly fast), the printer also comes un-enclosed. Enclosing the printer can significantly help to reduce the noise, my personal speed demon used to keep me up at night, then I enclosed it and now I often forget that it is printing. If you didn’t already know you can actually print the enclosure panels for the p1p on the p1p.
Overall both of the printers perform extremely well, as far as I know they perform pretty similarly in speed, and definitely perform very closely in print quality. One more thing you may want to take into account would be the size difference. Being a delta printer the V400 is much taller than the p1p, it comes in at ~1m tall if I remember right. So if you have space limitations you may want to stick to the p1p.
Bambu Labs is a fairly new company, it has proven to be pretty trustworthy so far but it might be wise to take into account that it is a new company. FLSUNN has been around for quite some time, I have 4 of their QQ-S printers for many years now and they have proven to be quite reliable. I’m not trying to say that Bambu Labs is inferior because is has been around for less time, but to me it is notable that FLSUNN has been a very trustworthy and reliable company for quite some time.
One more thing you may want to take into account is the hardware and firmware on each. Bambu Labs have their proprietary cloud based software, along with mostly proprietary parts on their machines. This means that (for the time being) if something breaks you have to go through them to get a replacement. To their credit most of the replacement parts are decently priced and from what I have heard have pretty fast shipping prices, but still definitely a downside. As for the cloud based software, it works very well, and from my limited experience with it, it is very user friendly and works quite well. But in the future if something happens and they go out of business you may be out of luck. I also know that it tracks and uploads information to their servers, which some people find to be worrysome.
The V400 however, is very diy-friendly. From what I can tell it does have a couple of proprietary components, but the large majority of the printer should be serviceable using off the shelf components. And you should be able to make upgrades to most any part of the printer if you so choose. Another great part of the V400 is that it uses klipper firmware, this is run locally on your home network. And it is completely yours, you are free to change it as you wish, there is lots of customization available, and it offers basically all the same options (probably more) than Bambu Labs software. For what its worth it also doesn’t store your information on the cloud. Klipper gets semi-regular updates (probably not as much as Bambu Labs, but still frequent enough), and since it is an open source project there is no risk of it becoming useless in the future.
The last thing I want to bring up (I know, I promise this is all), is the ease of use. I’m not sure of your experience level with 3D printing, but Bambu Labs printers are very beginner friendly. They are meant to be taken out of the box and almost be ready to go, the setup process is quite automated and requires very little tinkering from the user. The V400 on the other hand does require some more setup and tinkering, doing stuff like input shaping and flow calibration does require some user assistance. But these things are generally pretty easy to learn and there are lots of tutorials and stuff online.
I hope that this can help you with making an informed decision, if you have any more questions or need any further assistance please don’t hesitate to reach out!
Thanks,
Matthew
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thanks, just what i needed
Glad I could help!
Which one are you leaning towards? Getting a new printer is always so exciting!
Happy printing,
Matthew
Don’t rule out the CR-10 Smart Pro.
The V400 is exceptionally good according to a friend that has one. Very fast with quality