i recommend staying away from this printer; i have one and it is nothing but trouble;
having an FLSUN V400 and lot of trouble with it, FLSUN Still has bolloxed up the filament feed system on the S1;
this time it is the filament unload steps; ridiculous ;
rather than follow them i elected to just print to the end of the spool for runout;
i might bypass the top part of the filament feed system and use the alternative back side port IF I KEEP this printer;
i got a clog on high speed filament provided by flsun after just 3 hours of printing;
the model i used was from flsun slicer v 1.1.5; nearly all stock ,print profile settings; no speed changes;
this is my 9th different 3d printer and i would rate it 2nd from the bottom;
i will replace the hotend (the V400 had a design flaw and the hot end would trap unmelted plastic and have to be replaced) ;
FLSUN should take a page from bambu lab ( i have 3 A1s ) and do the entire filament ecosystem right; i will give this printer maybe 4 or so more hours and then trash it if the problems continue or new ones arise;
maybe i should have gotten the hint when a spare hotend was included with the purchase, maybe they should have included half a dozen with large instructions;
AND , as to the filament ecosystem , just said âdo it your own wayâ;
the assembly instructions were a joke insofar as the door hinges were concerned, tiny useless images and lack of steps;;
as with the V400, reading from the USB drives is problematic ; better to use the web interface and âsend to printerâ via LAN;
altogether i am sorry i bought this printer , even should the replaced hotend work, it reveals behavior similar to the v400, which i replaced the hotend 4 or so times;
and OF COURSE, there are no replacement hotends as replacement parts on the FLSUN website ( looking at the construction of the hotend, it looks like a replacement nozzle (simple V300 ? ( or CHT)) might be simple, however the V400 issue was upstream of the heated nozzleâŚ);
i would recommend this printer if you desire to continuously , non-stop print 8 minute benchies ( g-code provided by flsun with the purchase)
You havenât had much luck with them. My v400 is still running well I have not had any of the problems you have. Their slicer profiles are bad and the speed quite optimistic, overly so of course so is my Bambu neither hot ends can keep up.
I wonder if you are having issues due to the environment you have the printers in?
I have been hearing a lot of split opinions with the new FLSUN machines, either you really like them, or really hate them.
Personally from what I have used, it seems to be an ok enough machine. It does what it says it does (except the flowrate, that is complete horseradish). My concern is just, are we reaching the point where these machines are actually too fast? There is a limit to what the polymer can support in terms of melting and cooling before it starts to produce issues. In my opinion the FLSUN rides this line very closely. This of course leads to reliability issues, not on the part of the machine itself, but rather on the material.
Actually speed depends as the mk4 & mk4S are the one of the fastest with normal filaments with best quality the exemption is the nozzzled are getting smaller since 5 years ago now about high speed 3DPrinters the filament needs to melt faster so be sure to check with the manufacturer of the 3DPrinter
& itâs best practice to get 3DPrinterd from the factory or official resellers but first watch at least 4 different video reviews like on YouTube.com
Mathew that is very true. 1200mm/s is crazy fast. It tries to do this. I can move fast enough but it canât really melt most materials that fast. PCL excluded. It prints fast. I think a lot of the quality issues fall into its simply too fast. I have a 0.6 nozzle and really only use it for big structural prints rather than fine detailed ones.
did you try a high speed filament?
I did. I only tried one roll from, I canât remember, esun, I think.
Personally I didnât really notice much difference at all. It feels like pla+ itâs just different not really better just not the same.
The issue really comes to the hot end. Ideally it needs something else. Maybe a chg but it has a version so I didnât think it was worth the money.
My call is my flsun can move faster than any other printer I know of but the rest of the printer hasnât caught up yet.
In my case I have a printer that is as big well sort of at least, and is bulletproof. It isnât as fast but it always produces fantastic prints. It beats every other printer I own. I only use the flsun when I need particular things generally. It is a specialized unit for me not a daily. My two Prusas (XL and MK3S) beat everything. The XL and my Bambu are about the same speed and the XL prints better hands down.
@Matthew can you please lend him a hand
@Matthew the prusa mk4/s is the fastest for good quality for regular pla unless youâve got filament more grind resistant like form futuraâs Apollo
I think fl sun is cheap as of 2019
Personally I have found that the prusa mk4, while fast, doesnât run any near as fast as a k1/bambu/voron or any other equivalent corexy machine.
Its a shame that Prusa is stuck in their old ways, if they adapted more with the market they would still be a viable option in my eyes. But at the current point their printers are too much money for what you get (I will leave a clause for the XL, you could still make arguments for the cost, but its actually a really nice machine). For for the rest of their machines the price vs. feature set gets dominated by almost every other machine on the market.
Personally I think that creality and bambu have nailed the perfect mixture of speed and quality on a plug and play machine. The FLSUN while a beautiful machine just lacked in terms of everything else, it ran too fast causing honestly some of the worst prints I have ever seen, some of the claims were misleading at best and the printer is obnoxiously loud. Prusa just runs too slow with a lack of features and print quality boost to make the price tag worth it to me.
The assembled mk4 kit runs $1500 cad before any shipping or import fees are applies (you will have to pay both), by the time you get it to your door you can basically buy 2 K1 maxâs or P1S combos. Personally I would much prefer either of those options, the printers run much faster, come enclosed, and have bigger build plates.
There is no doubt that the MK2 and MK3âs were some of the best machines at the time, during that time they were really the only reliable options for a polished machine out of the box. But currently we have so many better options, if they donât change something soon they will be in trouble!
Also donât get me wrong, the MK4 is an amazing machine, I donât want anyone to think I am dunking on their printer decisions. I have been thinking about this for a while, I hope Prusa can do something to keep themselves in the game, I admire their open source aspects and everything they have done to pave the way for the new wave of printers.
I own a V400, Xl, Mk3S, and a P1S. I use all .
The Bambu isnât much faster than the Mk3S. The problem is Bambu has set it up to run too fast. It is by default pushed beyond its abilityâs.
Prints are matte off the P1S even PetG. It should be glossy. I found I need to cut the speed about 50% to get the same strength and surface. It probably would be worth upgrading to an E3D or diamond nozzle that is better heat wise it also has terrible overhangs.
The xl is twice as big twice the price and makes prints that perform and look way better. It is considerably a better printer, not really in the same league.
I am not sold on the Bambu my Prusa are work horses. I have put far more hours fixing or messing with the Bambu compared to all three of the others. The AMS has been a nightmare.
It offends my sense of right and wrong to have a company like Bambu push a share and share alike non commercial license design to fix their issues. They should design their own and not violate the spirit of open source.
They are going to get sued for copyright infringement, wait, they are. Saw that coming.
as regards my S1, i consider it an awful purchase; although i have a 100 or so prints from it; it is a constant fight ;
the firmware, as exposed in the UI, is buggy and very poorly programmed ( this from a lifetime IT guy); quite frequently the menu options dead-end, you cant go forward nor back, thus turn machine offâŚ
the V400 UI was much better; the S1 quality is well below the bambu a1 , which i use 24/7; in fact anything that requires decent quality i no longer even try using the S1 ( via ORCA)**;
flsun rushed this product to market;
their accessories page still has no listings for the S1;
their slicer reminds me very much of creality print, another bad product;
at this point, beyond my purchasing regret, the s1 will sit idle waiting for firmware updates and any other support that arises ( such as the orca patch ( maybe better presets) );
as an aside i print at the presetsâ speeds and sometimes a good bit slower, still the quality is lacking;
usually PLA silk , 0.4 nozzle
as an aside, the included build plate is only one-sided for the textured PEI (and no accessory is available yet, just goes to showâŚ)
** radical failures include interlocking pieces like the various âimpossible passthruâ models; they just do not fit together, they fit nicely using the Bambu A1 (parts printed separately)
alarmingly , after i had to do a factory update due to a âmotor failureâ, and contacted FLSUN support for latest firmware, etc, they instructed me to install an old version before i could update to a new version;
it turns out that the factory reset DID indeed use the latest firmware that i had installed prior; so FLSUN support was wrong and would have led me down a troublesome path needlessly;
